Comments on: Putting a Photo Across the Gutter of a Spread http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/ Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:35:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Stephen http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-373 Stephen Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:59:23 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-373 Hi Robin, Thank you for providing the tutorial. The results are great and was perfect on the softcover book. My question is on the hardcover, it is off a little bit because of the binding process do you recommend to add another 0.125" (image's width resized to X" - 0.375")? Thanks Stephen Hi Robin,

Thank you for providing the tutorial. The results are great and was perfect on the softcover book.

My question is on the hardcover, it is off a little bit because of the binding process do you recommend to add another 0.125″ (image’s width resized to X” – 0.375″)?

Thanks
Stephen

]]> By: Courtney http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-355 Courtney Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:45:33 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-355 This is so helpful, but can you tell me how to do it in InDesign? I can't see the exact position of your guides in the photoshop images you posted. I am trying to determine how much of the image you are duplicating? Because I am working in Indesign, I am just placing 2 copies of the image to go over the spread and then doing basically what you've demonstrated in Ps. Does this make any sense, can you guide me? I can send you a pdf or screen shots of my particular document, so you understand what I talking about, and you can see my attempt at doing this. I am working on my thesis art exhibition right now. My concentrations are graphic design and photography, so I know enough about print design and book construction, but I think my gutter compensations are too large. I looked all over the blurb site and google, your the only one who concretely addresses this and who has physical proof that your measurements work. Please help. thanks, Courtney This is so helpful, but can you tell me how to do it in InDesign? I can’t see the exact position of your guides in the photoshop images you posted. I am trying to determine how much of the image you are duplicating?
Because I am working in Indesign, I am just placing 2 copies of the image to go over the spread and then doing basically what you’ve demonstrated in Ps.
Does this make any sense, can you guide me?
I can send you a pdf or screen shots of my particular document, so you understand what I talking about, and you can see my attempt at doing this.
I am working on my thesis art exhibition right now. My concentrations are graphic design and photography, so I know enough about print design and book construction, but I think my gutter compensations are too large.
I looked all over the blurb site and google, your the only one who concretely addresses this and who has physical proof that your measurements work.
Please help. thanks,
Courtney

]]> By: Adeola http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-353 Adeola Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:55:50 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-353 Sorry, this is a double post; I posted my initial comment/ question on the wrong tutorial. Thank you for taking time to create your tutorial, it has been very helpful. However, I'm a bit confused about the gutter size? How do you determine what gutter size to use? I'm making a book that has 134 pages, can I use .25 as my gutter size. I noticed that your books are over 200 pages and I wasn't sure if your technique will work for my book because its smaller in terms of the number of pages. Sorry, this is a double post; I posted my initial comment/ question on the wrong tutorial.

Thank you for taking time to create your tutorial, it has been very helpful. However, I’m a bit confused about the gutter size? How do you determine what gutter size to use? I’m making a book that has 134 pages, can I use .25 as my gutter size. I noticed that your books are over 200 pages and I wasn’t sure if your technique will work for my book because its smaller in terms of the number of pages.

]]> By: Erick http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-349 Erick Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:23:26 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-349 Robin, Thanks for this useful tutorial. What I couldn't find an answer to (and on Blurb's forum either) is if this gutter "offset" is also necessary for Blurb's softcover books. I think I read somewhere that softcover books open almost "flat". If it's the case, I guess I should make the spread continuous, without an offset. Any experience with softcovers ? Thanks in advance Erick Robin,

Thanks for this useful tutorial. What I couldn’t find an answer to (and on Blurb’s forum either) is if this gutter “offset” is also necessary for Blurb’s softcover books. I think I read somewhere that softcover books open almost “flat”. If it’s the case, I guess I should make the spread continuous, without an offset. Any experience with softcovers ?

Thanks in advance
Erick

]]> By: The Almond Croissant Diaries » Blog Archive » Blurb books http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-322 The Almond Croissant Diaries » Blog Archive » Blurb books Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:40:17 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-322 [...] the central binding were perfectly lined up (see the photo below). Speaking of which, I found a fantastic tutorial online which helped me do this - well worth a look if you are planning on creating your own blurb [...] [...] the central binding were perfectly lined up (see the photo below). Speaking of which, I found a fantastic tutorial online which helped me do this – well worth a look if you are planning on creating your own blurb [...]

]]> By: Robin http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-314 Robin Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:24:10 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-314 RG, Sorry if that was confusing. The 1/2" in the center is considered the gutter but typically only half of it will actually be used for binding. The other half is a margin and is there to remind people not to put text, faces, etc. too far in the center. Robin RG,
Sorry if that was confusing. The 1/2″ in the center is considered the gutter but typically only half of it will actually be used for binding. The other half is a margin and is there to remind people not to put text, faces, etc. too far in the center.

Robin

]]> By: RG http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-313 RG Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:18:18 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-313 Thanks for clarifying. One more question. Totally understand your concept of accounting for the gutter. But when you size the original picture why do you suggest it only be 1/2 the size of the gutter shorter? Shouldn't it be the whole size of the gutter shorter? If your gutter is 1/2 inch total (1/4 on left and right) isn't the ultimate goal to replicate that entire 1/2 that will wind up hidden in the gutter? Then, when you copy/paste the right side, slide it over 1/2 inch to fill the page...you're left with a 1/2 inch sliver of repeated image that fills the gutter? Again, maybe I'm missing something, but would love to hear what you think. Thanks again for all your help! Thanks for clarifying.

One more question. Totally understand your concept of accounting for the gutter. But when you size the original picture why do you suggest it only be 1/2 the size of the gutter shorter? Shouldn’t it be the whole size of the gutter shorter? If your gutter is 1/2 inch total (1/4 on left and right) isn’t the ultimate goal to replicate that entire 1/2 that will wind up hidden in the gutter? Then, when you copy/paste the right side, slide it over 1/2 inch to fill the page…you’re left with a 1/2 inch sliver of repeated image that fills the gutter? Again, maybe I’m missing something, but would love to hear what you think. Thanks again for all your help!

]]> By: Robin http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-312 Robin Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:30:21 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-312 RG, I belive there is a slight difference because I designed the templates using the inches they specified. And at 300 pixels per inch I doubt you will be able to tell that the pages are 3-7 pixels off. If you want you can resize the templates and move the guides to match. HTH, Robin RG,
I belive there is a slight difference because I designed the templates using the inches they specified. And at 300 pixels per inch I doubt you will be able to tell that the pages are 3-7 pixels off. If you want you can resize the templates and move the guides to match.

HTH,
Robin

]]> By: RG http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-311 RG Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:19:58 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-311 Plesase excuse this if it's a double post. I tried to post last not, but think I had some problems. Thanks for putting these together. They are really helpful. I just have one question. It looks like your templates are off by a few pixels as compared to what Blurb indicates the size should be: For example on your 7x7 full spread, when you crop for one side you wind up with a 2070x2070 image. But on their site Blurb calls for a 2063x2067 page. http://blog.blurb.com/index.php/2007/04/24/look-no-further-for-full-bleed-page-specs/ Just wondering why this is or if I am missing something obvious. Thanks a lot! Plesase excuse this if it’s a double post. I tried to post last not, but think I had some problems.

Thanks for putting these together. They are really helpful. I just have one question. It looks like your templates are off by a few pixels as compared to what Blurb indicates the size should be:

For example on your 7×7 full spread, when you crop for one side you wind up with a 2070×2070 image. But on their site Blurb calls for a 2063×2067 page.

http://blog.blurb.com/index.php/2007/04/24/look-no-further-for-full-bleed-page-specs/

Just wondering why this is or if I am missing something obvious. Thanks a lot!

]]> By: Ben http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-303 Ben Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:54:24 +0000 http://theartofengineering.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/putting-a-photo-across-the-gutter-of-a-spread/#comment-303 Hello Robin, I've found your wonderful site and tried to put an image of mine across the gutter of a spread. I have a question though since I didn't fill out the whole two pages til the very left and very right. Here's what I did: After opening the template in Photoshop I placed my photo in it. Like so >>> www.flickr.com/photos/23771637@N05/3068311599/sizes/o/ As in the tutorial described I used the marque tool in order to select the image with the overlay. I then measured the length from the first to the third of the help lines on the very right side of the right page and copied and moved my selected portion according to the measured length to the right side. The overlay now looks like this (close up) >>> www.flickr.com/photos/23771637@N05/3068324195/sizes/o/ Did I do everything the right way? cheers, Ben Hello Robin,
I’ve found your wonderful site and tried to put
an image of mine across the gutter of a spread.
I have a question though since I didn’t fill out the whole two pages til the very left and very right.
Here’s what I did:

After opening the template in Photoshop I placed my photo in it.
Like so >>>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23771637@N05/3068311599/sizes/o/

As in the tutorial described I used the marque tool in order to select the image with the overlay. I then measured the length from the first to the third of the help lines on the very right side of the right page and copied and moved my selected portion according to the measured length to the right side.

The overlay now looks like this (close up) >>>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23771637@N05/3068324195/sizes/o/

Did I do everything the right way?
cheers,
Ben

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